I was at Home Depot back in October I think it was. Ran into him and we stood and talked for awhile. He knew my parents and asked about them and I know his dad. Then the talk turned to the subject of his kids. He was telling me about his kids how proud of them he was and how they turned out. It was a heartfelt . I would run into him from time to time before that but never stopped to talk but he was always kind and would make a point to speak to me. That in itself says a lot to me about where his heart was. A Christian